In this episode, Nic and Kate open up about their personal journeys with setting boundaries—how it’s challenged them, changed them, and continues to shape how they relate to themselves and others. They explore the idea that boundaries aren’t walls to keep people out, but bridges that foster respect, safety, and real connection. From the baby steps it takes to start setting limits, to the deeper need for self-worth and humility, they unpack how receiving kindness can sometimes be harder than giving it. With wisdom from their own experiences, they remind us that true community means showing up for each other—and that starts with valuing ourselves enough to set healthy boundaries.

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Music: The Light from Within by Howard Harper-Barnes

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